http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland Irish ruby and rails user group. 2010-03-17T01:16:55Z Google Groups niall larkin niall.p.lar...@gmail.com 2010-03-17T01:16:55Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/d8b4796d17799af8?show_docid=d8b4796d17799af8

+1 @aidanf <br> I also agree that there's no need to bash recruiters. But I'd add that there <br> IS a need to recognise that recruiters operate within a different incentives <br> scheme to the rest of us. In short, the downside of spamming the group for a <br> recruiter does not necessarily outweigh the upside. <br> If a recruiter were to thoughtlessly spam the group, there's not much point

aidanf aid...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T23:47:18Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/5cd148303a96c053?show_docid=5cd148303a96c053

Every post isn't moderated. Each persons first post is moderated - <br> once their first post is approved they can post whatever they want <br> without it being moderated. <br> Deleting members posts would set a very bad precedent imo. This is <br> supposed to be an open forum - if anyone wants to air their opinion on <br> recruiters or recruitment posts they should be free to do so.

Jonathan Clarke clarke.jonat...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T23:23:01Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/50bb74d892574584?show_docid=50bb74d892574584

Recruitement is just another profession, there are good recruiters and bad <br> recruiters....all just doing a job. <br> I praise good recruiters, but I like to educate bad ones about best <br> practices, hence the point of the guidelines they should follow before <br> posting anything! <br> Jonathan

Barry Alistair ba...@irishdev.com 2010-03-16T23:17:21Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/6fd88aeec453fc51?show_docid=6fd88aeec453fc51

It saddens me to hear the recruitment profession being dissed....they, like <br> you, are doing a job. I'm sure the good guys would be infinitely more <br> grateful to hear people openly praise them for a job well done (who knows, <br> it might even make the less experienced people raise their game too). <br> Best <br> BArry

Jonathan Clarke clarke.jonat...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T23:16:01Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/27ab159262fc970c?show_docid=27ab159262fc970c

Recruiter bashing doesn't solve anything, only makes the recruiters view the <br> group as a whole with disdain despite individual comments. <br> As far as I'm aware every post is moderated anyhow, those types of post <br> wouldn't even make the list n'est pas? <br> Jonathan

Denis Hennessy dhenne...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T22:56:44Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/e39f2c669aea1424?show_docid=e39f2c669aea1424

I can't see why you'd ban posts which criticise recruiters. If someone has had a bad experience with a particular recruiter, they should be able to share that. If a (lazy) recruiter starts posting jobs for Windows Network Admins or .NET trainers, I'd like to see them get bashed. <br> I don't mind a few, relevant, job postings but recruiters in general don't contribute to the group and earn a healthy commission from placing people.

Richard Conroy richard.con...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T22:39:14Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/cccdf0b3e413a28f?show_docid=cccdf0b3e413a28f

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Clarke <br> +1 on all this. As a poor student, its good to know what the employment <br> activity <br> is like for Ruby &amp; related work.

Jonathan Clarke clarke.jonat...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T21:51:15Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/e843063e252800a2?show_docid=e843063e252800a2

I'm all for job postings; but lets just have a stickied post which <br> sets some ground rules first. Delete posts that are bashing the <br> recruiter and posts which are sub-par (how will the recruiters ever <br> learn otherwise) <br> In order to keep the Ruby Ireland group running smoothly, please <br> follow these guidelines when posting and responding to jobs.

Declan McGrath decla...@gmail.com 2010-03-16T19:50:42Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/db0b2b5c9bba285e/153265122d7a9b98?show_docid=153265122d7a9b98

Hiya, <br> I've had a recruiter get in contact and request to post a job on the uRby <br> Ireland mailing list. What do people think of such job postings - ok to post <br> here or not ok? <br> Regards, <br> Declan

Declan McGrath decla...@gmail.com 2010-03-15T22:26:53Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/b23a48d76c36d8aa/319b9621a9f64fe4?show_docid=319b9621a9f64fe4

So as previously announced we have the Open Jam - a day of hacking - going <br> ahead in the Enterprise Ireland Eastpoint offices. <br> I plan to run a Coding Dojo where basically a bunch of us gather around one <br> machine (and if there's enough interest we can probably do this in a dedicated <br> room with a projector) and code our way through a particular topic. If you'd

Raphael Molesim raphael.s...@gmail.com 2010-03-15T07:45:13Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/8e1b0064855ceffc/1bc7cd5fbee85bc8?show_docid=1bc7cd5fbee85bc8

Ok, I see you at Open Jam, <br> Thank Guys! <br> Raphael Molesim <br> ------------------------------ -------------------- <br> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:32 AM <br> To: &lt;ruby_ireland@googlegroups.com &gt;

Declan McGrath decla...@gmail.com 2010-03-15T00:32:30Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/8e1b0064855ceffc/f6a07d16014130a4?show_docid=f6a07d16014130a4

Hi Raphael, <br> I've spent today doing a little planning on upcoming Ruby events and I think <br> that the Open Jam event I posted earlier <br> (<a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://openevents.ie/doku.php?id=openjam">[link]</a>) is the best place for doing the <br> coding dojo. <br> Then the meetup on April the 6th can stick with the usual presentation + <br> discussion ( + cocktail sausages and chips ! ) format.

Declan McGrath decla...@gmail.com 2010-03-14T13:50:32Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/b23a48d76c36d8aa/051bd188aa917cb5?show_docid=051bd188aa917cb5

Hi folks, <br> Finally after much searching high and low for a venue, we've managed to secure <br> the (rather nice) conference rooms for the Open Jam event at Enterprise <br> Ireland's Eastpoint Offices. <br> The idea behind Open Jam is that it will be a chilled out type of community <br> event - that will satisfy the need of those of you who've been clamouring for

Declan McGrath decla...@gmail.com 2010-03-14T11:25:58Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/391421128727e5d6/0fe3b630bfb02b60?show_docid=0fe3b630bfb02b60

** Please register at <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://doodle.com/i8k23sshz6u5gdni">[link]</a> if ya know you'll be <br> coming *** <br> Tony Byrne will be presenting &quot;Re-implementing a bespoke ASP.net application <br> in Ruby on Rails&quot; <br> <p>More talks to be announced soon... <br> <p>Drinks from 6pm on in the conf room (ask which room at reception). <br> Presentations from 7pm. This months talks will be

Raphael Molesim raphael.s...@gmail.com 2010-03-13T23:36:48Z http://groups.google.ie/group/ruby_ireland/browse_thread/thread/8e1b0064855ceffc/a634824994ec86c3?show_docid=a634824994ec86c3

What are you that divide the meeting? <br> Create a separated meeting for a coding dojo? <br> ------------------------------ -------------------- <br> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:34 PM <br> To: &lt;ruby_ireland@googlegroups.com &gt; <br> Cc: &quot;Tony Byrne&quot; &lt;tonyby...@gmail.com&gt;